Feeding a Blended Diet

Teddy gets a blended diet through his G-tube, and not formula.

Why not formula? Well, most humans eat food. It’s what our bodies are made to use. It’s “normal.” There’s no reason not to. Formula is full of sugar and oil.

Pediasure Complete Enteral Formula ingredients: Water, Corn Maltodextrin, Milk Protein Concentrate, Sugar, High Oleic Safflower Oil, Soy Oil, Medium chain Triglycerides. (then a bunch of artificial vitamins and minerals)

Water, sugar, milk, sugar, oil, oil, oil.  That’s gross.

So, Teddy gets a blended diet.

Almost any person with a feeding tube could have a blended diet. There are a few exceptions, definitely, but MOSTLY kids (and adults) with feeding tubes CAN have a blended diet. Lots of GIs and Nutritionists are against this idea for reasons I don’t fully understand, but that doesn’t make them RIGHT. Usually, their reasons are things like “you’ll clog the tube,” “it’s too hard,” or “you won’t know if you’re providing all the recommended amounts of every nutrient.”  Because God Forbid any child in the US not get every recommended amount of every nutrient daily. I’m sure all the oral eating kids do, right?

Right?

(OK, if you don’t have any oral eaters, the answer is no. No, they do not.)

Is it hard? Not really. I cook things and I blend them up. It’s a bit more work than if he were eating orally, and yeah – a lot more work than popping the top on a can of pediasure. But it’s not THAT MUCH work.

Does it take a lot of time? When I was blending full time, I spent about 3-4 hours making his food every 3ish weeks. There’s an efficiency benefit in doing more at one time, so if I blended every 4 weeks, it’d still take about the same amount of time. I just only have room on the shelf in the freezer for so many jars.

Here’s what I do.

1. Make recipes. Not everyone uses a recipe. I do. I like spreadsheets. Some people just blend up whatever they’re feeding the rest of the family. I like to utilize the fact that I don’t have to make food that tastes good and create the very best, highest nutrition diet I can. It’s like an intellectual challenge for me. If you’re not into that, you don’t need to be that nerdy.

2. Check food inventory and cook.

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I first check over our leftovers. Taco meat from last night? Oh, yeah, that’s getting used. Vegetables from the stir fry Saturday? Yep. Teddy gets MOST of our leftovers. I’ve even started saving leftover eggs from Sunday brunch. Nobody actually EATS leftover scrambled eggs, but they blend up just fine. 🙂  If I’m not blending within a few days, leftovers just go in the freezer until blending day.  I also prefer to cook in advance. It actually doesn’t take that much time. Throw on a few pots to cook grains and one to steam or fry veggies. 30 minutes max. I tend to buy food that’s just for the blends in bulk, cook in a big batch, and freeze in small portions. Then I just have to defrost and blend.

3. Set up my workspace. This is my tiny kitchen. Cooked foods on the counter, produce on the TV tray to my left, jars underneath the tray, other things squished awkwardly in front of the microwave. It’s all right there, though I regularly run things like the hamburger back to the fridge when I’m not using it immediately.

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4. Throw the things in the blender. Liquid first, then other ingredients. Blend, adding liquid as needed to make it nice and smooth.
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5. Pour into jars. I freeze in Mason jars. Leave adequate headspace and don’t tighten the lid to avoid cracking. Others freeze in plastic containers or in Freezer bags.

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6. Feed. I do modify the Infinity bags. Takes like 5 seconds.

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For a How to Get Started guide, check out Blenderized RN.

Immunology, also titled Weekly Home Infusions Until the End of Time

This update isn’t going to be as clear as most of them. Because Immunology is super hard, turns out, and I don’t fully understand all of it.

So we saw immunology at the request of Transplant. We’ve seen Immunology in the past – when he was having all those blood infections from his central lines, and then right before and right after transplant – and they said he had some immune deficiencies but some IVIG should take care of it, get him through the post-transplant period, and he should be fine.

And he was, for the most part. In fact, he had low IgG at that time, and now he doesn’t.

But then the CMV kept coming back. All the respiratory infections. Bunch of other infections. All mild, nothing super big, but just constant. Which I had assumed was just… normal. But when you make a list of all the infections, it’s a really big list. Big enough that Transplant was shocked when we really listed them all out. And then include the mystery fevers and the UTIs that aren’t UTIs… it’s a big list.

So back to Immunology.

They ran some labs. And I don’t understand most of them. I mean, they’re all numbers and random letters. And Google is absolutely no help. I can Google the individual things, for the most part, but putting them together to make some sort of picture that makes sense…. nope. Can’t do that.

The one thing I could definitely tell on my own (and later was explained by Immunology) was that he has issues with his NK Cells. To call it NK Cell Deficiency, this has to be the person’s only immune issue, and that’s not the case here, but I’m still hiding in the NKD groups anyway, because I don’t know where else to go. Regardless, as of the present time, it seems evident that not only does he have too few NK cells, but the ones that he does have do NOTHING. The actual result was “virtually no activity.”

NK Cells are the cells that are supposed to respond quickly to viral infections and cancerous cells. Teddy’s just can’t be bothered. I’ve been looking for a link to put here of what happens when your NK cells don’t work, but I could find basically nothing. Because basically nobody really knows much. Whoohoo. In fact, most articles start by acknowledging that, essentially, we don’t know much about NK cells but we know they’re important based on looking at people whose NK cells are either too few or too lazy. There’s this, but it’s just a lot of long words to say, “well, who the heck knows, anyway…” and then a bunch of majorly depressing shorter words about all the things that destroy the people who have this.

He also has impaired T-cell function. That is from the immune suppression, probably. The “probably” part makes me giggle a little. Like I said, immunology is hard. (A study published in 2015 says, “But the immunoregulatory mechanism of FK506 is still largely unknown.” (FK506 = Tacrolimus, one of the two immune suppressants T takes.) So we’re doing this to him on purpose. Probably.

Then he has antibody deficiency. To determine this, they look at whether he responds to and maintains a response to the immunizations he’s gotten. He hasn’t. We’d previously determined that the MMR was essentially a waste of time (man, remember all the bellyaching I did over that one? Those two, really? So close together like that to squeeze them in before transplant? Shoulda skipped it.). I can’t remember which other ones we’ve checked, either around transplant time or more recently, but every one we’ve checked has come back as not immune. Not immune despite, in some cases, extra doses. More reading here.

And then there’s the rest of the effects of immune suppression.

So I don’t think this is the end of the story for T immunologically. I don’t know if having two or three things wrong with his immune system means there’s one over-arching immunologic diagnosis… it’s certainly not specified in the clinic notes and is one of my questions for our next immunology appointment. It’s also possible (I want to say likely, but we’re not going there) that the results from Genetics will shed some light on this.


So. Treatment.

Teddy started SCIG and will continue it until the end of time.

Subcutaneous Immunoglobulin. It’s an infusion of immunoglobulins that goes in under your skin. Once a week, Teddy’s going to get an infusion that will last for an hour or so. The medicine goes under his skin in a big lump and then is slowly absorbed over the next 24 hours or so. We did the first one last week at UI and it was fine. We’ll either go back again this week or we’ll start doing them at home this week. We’re still waiting to hear one way or the other. (Because, you know, we don’t have anything ELSE on our schedule, right?) This is what he’s getting. We’ll do this every week for all time.

And it’s fine. I hate it. I hate it a lot. I super hate it. I hate it. We may not see any improvement in infections for SIX MONTHS!! I hate that, too. We have to do this every week. EVERY WEEK. But it’s fine. I mean, I’ve given him injections. Daily and weekly injections. This is better than that. Right?

It’s better than dialysis. Dialysis was nightly. And it was awful. This should be OK. But it’s just one more thing, you know? One more thing. One more thing for us to have to do at home. One more hour and a half of his life every week that we have to devote to medical things.  78 hours a year. One more thing I have to do to him. One more thing I have to force on him. One more time I get to be his nurse AND his mom all at the same time. One more thing.

I don’t want to be misunderstood here. I’m happy to do it. I would do anything he needed. Gladly.

But I’m so tired of one more thing.

Viral Issues in Transplant Recipients

Just an informational post because the husband was having trouble coherently explaining this. 🙂

Solid organ transplant recipients obviously take immune suppressive drugs and that makes them more vulnerable to essentially everything that the immune system would usually fight. Viruses. Bacterial infections. Cancers.

A handful of viruses in particular tend to cause more trouble than others – mostly, the type that hang out in your body. A typical person is exposed to these viruses, often doesn’t develop any symptoms – or just mild cold symptoms, and then the virus lies in their body, dormant, for all time. Sometimes, even in healthy people, the viruses can be reactivated. Transplant recipients, because of the suppressed immune system, are more prone to viral reactivation. Also, if they weren’t exposed pre-transplant (obviously more common in kids than adults), their first encounter with one of these viruses can be troublesome.

This article gives a nice run down, if you’re interested in more detailed information using longer words: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3152274/

We monitor Teddy for three of these viruses on a regular basis (technically, we monitor viral load). Epstein Barr Virus (EBV), Cytomegalovirus (CMV) and BK Virus (which doesn’t actually stand for something – it’s just the initials of the first guy who ever had it).

CMV. I don’t know what to say definitively about Teddy and CMV right now because we’re not entirely sure what’s going on. It looks like his CMV levels go UP every time he has another illness. That’s not ideal, but as long as it comes back down every time, it’s better than not coming down. One of the things that was going on when he was admitted in the spring was that his CMV level was pretty high. Since then, we’ve noticed slight bumps associated with other illnesses. The risks with CMV infection are numerous. Primarily, it can cause rejection. It can also permanently damage the kidney. CMV viremia (for simplicity’s sake, “viremia” would be “high” viral load – what he had in the spring) carries with it a fairly scary mortality rate. CMV is treated by lowering immune suppression and taking a fairly nasty antiviral medication called valgancyclovir, which really does a number on your bone marrow (making you very anemic very quick, at least if you’re Teddy).

EBV. I want to say it was the first year post transplant, T got EBV for the first time. There were a lot of other things going on, and he ended up getting a tonsillectomy and a CT scan – primarily because the biggest risk factor with EBV in an immune suppressed patient is development of PTLD. PTLD – the acronym that strikes fear in the hearts of transplant moms everywhere. PTLD is a pretty aggressive cancer that transplant patients get with an awful mortality rate. It’s pretty rare… but transplant moms are so far past “rare” already – I mean, peds renal transplants are ALSO rare. So at our house, we tend to refer to EBV as “the scary cancer virus.”

BK virus. I know the LEAST about BK because we’ve never had to deal with it. BK virus primarily affects the kidney – causing permanent damage and/or graft loss.

Blenderized Diet for Tube Fed People

I wanted to wrap up Feeding Tube Awareness week by talking about what we feed Teddy.

Most people with a feeding tube are fed a liquid formula.

I believed there was a better option.

First, we kept Teddy on breastmilk for as long as possible, and 100% breastmilk until he was 1 year old. Just like his siblings.

Then, I started him on solid foods. Just like his siblings.

Except Teddy got his food blended up into a liquidish form and put directly into his belly.

It’s entirely possible (despite what your doctors may tell you) to feed a person regular foods through their feeding tube.

Some families blend up whatever everyone else is having. I figure, I’m in 100% control of what he eats without having to worry about preferences or flavor… I’m stuffing him with super nutritious foods! He does not eat what the rest of us are eating. 🙂 (and we eat pretty good… I just prefer Teddy to have a more nutrition-focused diet while I’m still in control of it.)

It’s not super hard. It’s not a super lot of work. It’s not dangerous. As long as it’s blended smooth, it’s not going to get stuck in the tube. There are a million reasons doctors have for not recommending a blended diet, but the fact is that most of them just aren’t familiar with it, and the unfamiliar is scary.

“What if I want to try blended foods, but our doctor won’t let us?”

I chafe a little at this question, to be honest, because your doctor doesn’t have that kind of power.

When I made the decision to do this with Teddy, both his doctors and his nutritionist had been pushing formula for months and months. I asked them what they would recommend I feed him if he were eating orally. Would they recommend I put him on formula? Or at this age (1 year), would they recommend I start feeding him CKF-appropriate foods?

Then, after the answer to that was a bunch of stuttering and stammering, I calmly explained that I had decided to start feeding him regular foods through his tube. I didn’t ask. I didn’t open the floor for discussion. I just told them this was what I was going to do. And after a year of working with me… they possibly knew better than to argue, lol.

We went through three nutritionists after that. Bam, Bam, Bam. Then we landed with Susan, our current nutritionist. We were, at that time, her only patient on a blended diet, but she was willing to learn and follow our lead. 🙂 After a lot of initial uncertainty, she now brags about his diet to her fellow nutritionists (including our old ones, lol), and advocates for them to support other families if they show an interest in blended diets.

Feeding Tube Awareness Week

This week is ALSO Feeding Tube Awareness Week.

I thought I’d take a moment this week to talk about Teddy’s tube.

Why does Teddy have a feeding tube?

Kidney disease often makes you feel nauseous. Perhaps because of this, or perhaps for other reasons, babies with kidney failure often don’t eat enough. Additionally, Teddy had high-output renal failure, which is a completely nonmedical way of saying that he peed out waaaay more than he should, and his body would literally pee itself into dehydration. To counter this, he required more intake than a typical baby – about twice what a typical baby would get, actually. We tried without the tube for about a month (from NICU discharge at 1 month until he was about 2 months), but during that time, he was chronically dehydrated, he was not gaining weight (and ultimately started losing weight), and our whole day revolved around Feeding The Baby. Or Trying To Feed The Baby. And meds. Forcing Meds Into My Baby. Forcing Breastmilk Into My Baby. Constantly constantly constantly stressing because he wasn’t taking in enough. When our doctor called to suggest it was time for a feeding tube, I agreed basically immediately (much to her surprise, lol). I don’t regret for a second.

Sometimes I wish we’d started off with the tube right away… but I’m ultimately glad we tried it without first. We tried. We failed. But we tried.

 

Why doesn’t Teddy eat orally now? Isn’t everything “fixed” since his transplant?

Teddy never really ate orally. He continued to use a bottle part time for a few months after his gtube was put in, but ultimately came to rely on the tube more and more. Ultimately, I don’t remember when but it was well before he turned 1, he stopped eating orally altogether, and actually developed a pretty intense oral aversion. Kissing him on the lips caused him to gag. Putting toys to his mouth caused him to gag.

He was also vomiting basically continuously during this time. (He’s had very very few days in his life where he hasn’t vomited – and most of the days with no vomits have been days he’s been on TPN – IV nutrition – while letting his gut rest.)

So… Oral Aversion.   Weak Mouth Muscles.     No recollection of how to handle food in his mouth.     Food is legitimately scary to him.

He’s made a LOT of progress since transplant. He is feeling better. He WANTS to eat. He has mostly figured out HOW to eat. He doesn’t gag any more. He puts everything in his mouth. (toys, I mean) But some textures and flavors of foods are still just too much. And some/many foods, he just can’t physically chew and move around in his mouth.

PTLD and Tonsils

When Teddy’s nephrologist said a few months ago that she wanted to take out his tonsils at some point because they were large (not because they were enlarged, or growing, or anything like that – just because they were large) and they make her nervous, I was kind of not on board with that. Her concern is PTLD, which I’ve blogged about before. It’s the stuff that haunts my nightmares. They feel Teddy might be at a greater risk for PTLD because of his congenital immunodeficiency, and of course peds transplant recipients are at a higher risk to start with. PTLD can often start in the tonsils, so they (and his lymph nodes) are something we monitor pretty closely.

I sat down to do some research on PTLD and enlarged tonsils and here’s what I found:

http://www.newswise.com/articles/enlarged-tonsils-marker-for-post-transplant-lymphoproliferative-disorder

The goal of this study was “to recognize adenotonsillar enlargement in those children at risk for PTLD, thus allowing for earlier diagnosis and treatment of this organ-threatening and life-threatening disorder.”

Conclusions: Adenotonsillar enlargement in the post-transplant population appears to have greater significance, as a marker for EBV hyperplasia and PTLD. When identified either by symptoms or physical exam, plans for adenotonsillectomy should be emphasized. Unlike healthy children who may be observed for regression, pathologic examination of adenotonsillar tissue is necessary to identify early lymphoproliferative disorders.

So… enlarged tonsils are more significant in post-transplant kids, and really can’t just be observed.

http://ndt.oxfordjournals.org/content/25/7/2089.full

Gist of the first page is that PTLD can be difficult to diagnose because there are so many forms.  “in children, the lymph nodes of the Waldeyer’s ring and tonsils are very common target organs.”  Honestly, I didn’t stick with this article all the way through.

Click to access shappdf17.pdf

This was an interesting paper, though the survey included is of little use to us because Teddy is still a mostly nonverbal, nonpotty trained toddler who doesn’t eat orally.

Really, knowing that a biopsy is critically important to early identification of PTLD, and early detection is critical to treatment, is enough for me. It goes against my “God put those parts in there for a reason” ethic, but the reasons for proceeding are compelling.

Now with EBV active in his system, and the tonsils larger than they have been, I totally understand and agree with the plan to get them out asap.

What’s Working

I feel like I spend a lot of time talking about the bumps and not enough time talking about what’s working. Because it’s the things that aren’t working that occupy my time. But I need to focus a bit more on what IS working. So, let’s talk about what *is* working post-transplant.

– Motor skills. Teddy’s made HUGE progress in motor skills. I mean, he’s walking. He’s almost running. He climbs a wee bit. He still falls down quite a bit, but he’s making great progress.

– Erythropoietin. Teddy’s failed kidneys didn’t make erythropoietin. It’s a hormone that your kidneys make to tell your body to make red blood cells. Kidneys that aren’t working don’t make the hormone. So Teddy received weekly shots of a synthetic version of the hormone. We needed to continue the shots for a month or so after transplant, but were able to stop by about 6 weeks post. Yay! The Epogen really hurts going in, so we were very happy to leave this injection behind. Teddy’s awesome new kidney, Lefty, is making all the erythropoietin he needs.

– Iron storage. Teddy’s never been good at iron. He had to have iron infusions for a while. Post-transplant, he’s been on the max dose of elemental iron for his weight. Last week, we stopped the iron (to try to improve some of his other labs that are bad). This week, his hemoglobin was still right in the target range. Wahoo!

– Calcitrol. Calcitriol’s another hormone made in your kidneys (and your liver, to a much lesser extent). Vitamin D (the vitamin) can’t be used in your body. Your body converts it to the hormone Calcitriol. In your kidneys. (I had this link rattling around in my bookmarks – it talks about Vit D and how it becomes hormonally active.) You can give a person with kidney failure all the sunlight and cod liver oil that you want, but if their kidneys can’t convert the vitamin D to the hormone calcitriol, it won’t do one bit of good. So, Teddy had to take a synthetic version of the hormone calcitriol. (Notably, until the very end before his transplant, when things were really getting out of control, he never needed actual Vitamin D. His Vitamin D level was fine. He had plenty. His body just couldn’t use it, because it was unable to convert the vitamin into the hormone.) Teddy’s awesome new kidney is happily converting the Vitamin D into the useable form, the hormone calcitriol.

– Bone Health. Bone health is kind of complicated. Vitamin D (actually, the active form Calcitriol), Calcium, Parathyroid hormone, phosphorous, and a few other things all play a role. When you have a growing baby whose body can’t convert Vit D into a useable form, who has calcium levels that are variably wonky, who has very high Parathyroid hormone, who pees out his phosphorous… you have a growing baby who is growing kind of crappy bones. Many kidney babies get renal rickets – a form of rickets found only in the renal population. Teddy did not have issues anywhere near that bad – in fact, his bones are pretty OK. But NOW his bones have no reason to not be growing straight and strong. 🙂 (This is a reasonably decent discussion of the role these things play in bone health. I’ve seen better, but I can’t find it.)

– Pee. Teddy’s never had trouble peeing, but he pee was “poor quality.” Yes, his pee was criticized for being subpar. But now he has awesome pee. His awesome new kidney is able to hold on to essential nutrients like sodium, phosphorous, etc., that his old kidneys couldn’t hang on to.

– Filtering Blood. This is of course the big one. Teddy has a kidney that actually filters his blood. It takes the waste products out and keeps the good stuff in. Throughout ALL of the bumps Teddy’s had since transplant, this one has remained rock solid. His kidney has always, always done its main job of cleaning the blood. So, so amazing. Go, Lefty!

PTLD (or, last week’s Scary Talk)

PTLD scares me the most out of all of the potential post-transplant complications. That and all the other types of cancer he could get (for example, he’s at a much higher risk of skin cancer).

PTLD is Post Transplant Lymphoproliferative Disorder. It’s a type of cancer specific to transplant patients, frequently associated with Epstein-Barr Virus infection. Pediatric patients are at a much higher risk than adult patients (partly or possibly primarily because many peds transplant patients have not been exposed to Epstein-Barr Virus at the time of their transplant, but receive a kidney from an EBV-positive donor, or are exposed to EBV some time in their lives while immunosuppressed).

Then, evidently, because of his hypogammaglobulinemia (basically, parts of his immune system have been pretty low ever since we started looking at them) and possible functional antibody deficiency, he’s actually at an even higher risk for developing PTLD. Yay, him! 🙂

Mostly, we just monitor him closely for symptoms of EBV, and I’m supposed to get very familiar with all of his lymph nodes, and we’ll watch his tonsils closely, and a few other things, and if he gets it, the treatment is to reduce immunosuppression and hope it goes away. 🙂  I need to note – chances of him developing PTLD are still fairly low, in the grand scheme of things. I can’t quantify it – frankly, every study I’ve read has been unable to quantify it even in the general transplant population, let alone factoring in his immune issues.

But it freaks me the H out.

And it’s one of those transplant things that most people just aren’t aware of. Getting a transplant is a GREAT thing, and there are obviously more benefits than drawbacks (I mean, being alive and having a greater than average risk for cancers still beats not being alive, right?), but there are still a lot of scary stuff that come along with it.

 

If you want to read more about PTLD: here, here, and here.

More about hyopgammaglobulinemia: here, here, and here.

Medical Advice and Being Careful Where You Get It From

So I feel like this goes without saying, but I don’t think it does. Please don’t take medical advice from a blog. Not this blog, not any blog.

I try to always give sources when I’m making statements of fact about things, or when I’m discussing decisions I made, if I made them using medical studies or websites or book, I give the sources so you can do your own research and draw your own conclusions. (and if I ever don’t, please ask!)

I also do a lot of reading of blogs of other medical needs moms, and blogs on health in general, and it’s just appalling to me the amount of bad advice that’s out there, or authoritative statements made with nothing given to back those statements up.

If someone says “X is safe for everyone except if you have liver disease,” don’t just say, “well, my kid doesn’t have liver disease, it must be ok!” Use your internet to work for you – a quick Google of “X counterindications” might show that, in fact, X is not safe if you have liver disease, or kidney disease, or a seizure disorder. Or it could cause miscarriage. Then you’ll be super glad you took the 2 minutes it took me to perform that particular internet search, right?

If someone says “hand sanitizer is evil because it contains triclosan and triclosan is evil,” don’t just take their word for it. Again, a less than 2 minute internet search yielded the information that the FDA doesn’t allow triclosan to be used in leave-on products like hand sanitizer.

If someone says “don’t take fish oil if you’re taking immunosuppressants!” don’t just believe them, unless they publish a source for this statement. (Because studies available at the NIH website directly contradict this.) At the same time, if they said “absolutely take fish oil when you’re on immunosuppressants!” don’t just believe that, either!!

Most of us want our care providers to practice evidence-based medicine. But *you* have a part to play, too – you have to form evidence-based opinions. You cannot base your opinions on what you read on someone’s blog. Even if that person acts like an authority. Even if that person says they’ve done all the research. Even if you’re busy and tired and you think, “hey, this person says they’ve done all the research, I’ll just take their word for it.” Did they provide their sources? If so, look at them. If not, then you have no real reason to believe them in the first place. Be skeptical!! This is your or your child’s health we’re talking about!

Common Post-Transplant Questions Answered #3

3. Is he all better?

Yes and no.

Teddy’s transplant should make LOTS of things better. We won’t know for sure right away, but it should help with growth, with development, with how he feels. Obviously, it’s adding DECADES to his expected lifespan. When his body’s not putting so much effort into staying alive, it should be able to put more effort into motor skills, language skills, and just simply energy to play.

 

In other ways, No, as difficult as it is to think about it this way, a kidney transplant is a treatment method, it is not a cure. He doesn’t get his transplant and then just go about life like any other kid. Even a year from now, when things have settled down, he’ll still have monthly clinic appointments (forever). We’ll still have to be really careful about germs (forever). We’ll have to avoid crowds, lakes, rivers, streams, some pools, ticks, sick people, some foods, and buffets (forever). He’ll have to avoid certain activities and take medication (forever). He’ll have to have his blood pressure, weight, and temp checked twice a day (forever). He’ll be watched pretty closely (forever).

He’ll still be pretty high-maintainance. Like a Ferrarri. 🙂